If you would, reflect back with me upon the Witnesses article, from the Watchtower issue cited above. Their organization, being patterned after the first-century Christian congregation, is blessed by Jehovah. How about, we live productive, simple lives with good christian character, while being fully aware that this system is temporary and being willing and ready to do what we need to do when the time comes?? 17:11) But Armageddon does not refer to any literal place on earth. However, there appears to be an opening in these statements for some to do just that. Five years later, Poul and his wife stopped associating with the Witnesses, which in 1964 resulted in his being interrogated by their Elders and then ostracised from the . Armageddon.REV. You should live with fellow Jehovah's Witnesses only. Coming up on 2034 there will be a fall back plan developed. (Read Ezekiel 38:2, 8,9.) I have a suggestion about what might happen to Witnesses in the future. Still keep the whole end time thing like others have but make it much more nonspecific, keep the no trinity, no hell, maybe no holidays. The wording in the following quotations from the WT is carefully presented so as to obfuscate the real meaning. Scans of the english article were posted here a while back. That's awful far away. Nothing is interpreted but the interpretation comes from God and is then published . How about just being aware, alert, ready? View Rude Words. (Isa. 3:25,26. In a similar way, Christ's presence includes the events leading up to and including the great tribulation. 1914." against Sisera. Jehovah's Witnesses - for indeed, it is they - are stepping up their presence in city centres across the UK in an effort to attract converts to a church that claims more than 8 million . According to Revelation 17:1, 6 and 18:24, why will Jehovah destroy Babylon the Great? It appears to me that the context of these accounts is clearly focusing on an event (it occurred Luke 17:26) that overtook unwary people. Questions From Readers Second Peter 3:10 says: "Jehovah's day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a hissing noise, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be discovered.". Welcome This website was founded by dedicated, baptized Jehovah's Witnesses. 1:3) The war of Armageddon will not destroy but save mankind! Actions against the religious group and its individual members spanned the Nazi years 1933 to 1945. latest Maybe they're use this one after 2034 hope proves false hope once again. God gave the people in Noah's day 120 years, and perhaps he was giving us 120 years also. ^ par. Or those determined to fight a "war on terror". New features of the work have required new methods, which has meant revisions and changes from time to time in organization instructions, but it is all a part of the advancement of Jehovah's theocratically controlled organization under the immediate direction of Jehovah God himself. It will NEVER come. Jehovah's Witnesses with 1.3 million members in the U.S. who hand out brochures on sidewalks and subway platforms and ring doorbells are one of the most visible religious groups in the . As we have seen in recent years, subtlety isn't working; they've gone bat-crap crazy in their bluntness. Prior to 1914, Jehovah's Witnesses believed that Armageddon would end in 1914, and this included the fall of false religion (including Christendom) and the end of all earthly governments followed by heavenly and earthly resurrections and the establishment of paradise on earth. 77:12) These activities, along with a full share in the ministry, will keep our faith strong and our hope alive! We can take the prophetic time, and time-and-a-half, apply it to the preaching work done by Noah to come up with a parallel even realized by the inspection. 16:16; ftn.) 2. Very soon they will be given that opportunity. ;-). So I'd like to answer some of the a accusations that questions about Jehovah's witnesses always seems to bring. His mother died 16 years later in 1954, refusing a blood transfusion for a life-saving operation. (Ezek. cecinissem casuri agitandarum radiaretis inhibere domuum in Hebrew Gematria equals 2191: c 3 e 5 c 3 i 9 n 40 i 9 s 90 s 90 e 5 m 30 0 c 3 a 1 s 90 u 200 r 80 i 9 0 a 1 g 7 i 9 t 100 a 1 n 40 d 4 a 1 r 80 u 200 m 30 0 r 80 a 1 d 4 i 9 a 1 r 80 e 5 t 100 i 9 s 90 0 i 9 n 40 h 8 i 9 b 2 e 5 in Hebrew Gematria equals 2191: c 3 e 5 c 3 i 9 n 40 i 9 s 90 s 90 e 5 m 30 0 c 3 . 3 Read Revelation 16:14,16. latest 4. *** Reference Bible Deuteronomy 18:20-22 ***, 20 "'However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. The organization is asking Ramapo . Is it some brilliant, farsighted man, some human who is a master organizer? | ***. The abundance of spiritual food and the amazing details of Jehovah's purposes that have been revealed to Jehovah's anointed witnesses are clear evidence that they are the ones mentioned by Jesus when he foretold a "faithful and discreet slave" class that would be used to dispense God's progressive revelations in these last days. (Jas. 1. Other Jehovah's Witnesses presidents included Nathan H. Knorr (1942-1977), Fredrick W. Franz (1977-1992), and Milton G. Henschel (1992-2000). One of the biggest problems for the governing body is that 2034 is an awful long time away. 10 The judgment on the great prostitute. (Read Revelation 17:1,6; 18:24.) beliefs, Is the Watchtower Predicting The End By 2034 Through Subtle Hints? Like clouds covering the land, he will attack Jehovahs people. In 2014, a San Diego judge ordered Watchtower to award $13.5 million to a man who was abused by a church . (Isa. (Rev. *** w86 3/15 p. 19 Allow No Place for the Devil! Let us consider each of these in turn. Despite our trials, how can we remain faithful as Armageddon draws near? Because to be known by him can mean having Gods approval. Jehovah is the one behind all of it. (Ps. Thanks, Blondie! The core notion embraced by Jehovah's Witnesses is that Armageddon is imminent, and that the only way to be saved from a terrible end-times death is to abide by their tenets, which are dispensed . 9. Fred was half blind, and so am I from studying texts in Hebrew and Greek and writing java code. Was the Siege at Jerusalem in A.D. 70 the Worst in World History? It suggests that someone in the writing department (perhaps a younger Nethinim hopeful, waiting for the governing body to be opened to the great crowd) has perhaps given passing thought to the possibility of a 120 tie in with 1914 to 2034. 13. 1:6-9. w08 01/01 pg. 2 - Set an end date at 2034 and attempt to repeat the amount of growth they got in the 20 years prior to 1975. First, there is no literal mountain of Megiddo. 6. Back in the 1960s there was, seemingly, a brief period of relaxation in authoritarianism among Jehovah's Witnesses. Did not Moses make a 40-year miscalculation in trying to act ahead of time to remove Israel's affliction? 24:14. In my opinion the ONLY reason they haven't taken this and run with it is that 2034 is still TOO FAR AWAY for them to maintain the urgency and fear they need in the rank and file. Jehovah's Witnesses was founded in 1879 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania by Charles Taze Russell (1852-1916). Why did things start to pick up again in the 1980s? God feeds his own people, and surely God uses those who love and serve him according to his own will. Some of these views involve the length of time it would take for the end to come. And the mountains were not found. Accordingly his days shall amount to a hundred and twenty years.' For example, he may use earthquakes, hail, and lightning. Copyright 2001-2015 Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum | JW.Org Community Information. By putting this value in the parallel equation we get the same result, 2014! In this article, we discuss what Armageddon is, what events will lead up to it, and how we can remain faithful as the end draws near. Does no one think my post interesting enough to reply? ( Gense 6:3) Ce decret divin mis en 2490 avant notre re marqu le commencement de la fin pour le monde impie. Words such as "Similar, Similarly, Similarity, Similarities, Parallel, Corresponds, Characteristic, Compare, Arklike and more are all through the article to back up their subtle and hinted claims. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his "slave" to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. I was quite taken with this theory at the time, but of course 1999 came and went. 1:2-4) A key is to persevere in heartfelt prayer. 1-5). But we display our faith in God's Word and its sure promises by declaring its message to others. At Armageddon, Gods people will not fight. They will make more and more grave statements about the end being near, but these won't do the trick either because they will contain nothing specific. (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1989, p. 12 [bound volume changed "20th century" to "day"]), Jehovah's prophetic word through Christ Jesus is: 'This generation (of 1914) will by no means pass away until all things occur.' Nevertheless, the proclamation will be just another demon-inspired lie. . ", *** Watchtower 1964 June 15 pp.365-6 Jehovah, the God of Progressive Revelation ***, 22 As Jehovah revealed his truths by means of the first-century Christian congregation so he does today by means of the present-day Christian congregation. This does not signify that the faithful remnant or society of Jehovah?s anointed witnesses are an earthly tribunal of interpretation, delegated to interpret the Scriptures and its prophecies. Wherever they are on earth, Gods people will trust in him when the attack is launched (See paragraph13)*. (1Cor. Our chronology, however, which is reasonably accurate (but admittedly not infallible), at the best only points to the autumn of 1975 as the end of 6,000 years of man's existence on earth. The expression this generation (he-genea-aute) is found five times in Matthews Gospel record, and never is it employed in any sense other than that of the generation contemporary with Jesus Christ (cf. The Bible says 'their days are seventy or eighty', so Witnesses figured that the end must come around 1994 at the latest. The man . Here is our best guess at this point in timeblah blah blah." The Watchtower is not the instrument of any man or set of men. But what happened to the mood of reform? This is why many Witnesses went into the 1980s and early 1990s with great confidence. They proudly bear his name, and they have obeyed his command to flee from Babylon the Great. But, I am fearfully confident that many others will do so and this will be a question many will ask. We must, therefore, insist that the Scriptures do not teach that Armageddon is a carnal conflict that is a precursor to the end of earths history. (Rev. Im not questioning the argument for the presence being some period of time, it is simply that to use these verses (Matthew 24:37-39 and Luke 12:26-28) to definitively do so creates more questions and speculation than it needs to, given all of the other proof texts and reasoning that could be used (to support the parousia being a period of time). And it is precisely because of societys great anxiety in tumultuous times that the Witnesses find such a fertile field for their hysterical, pseudo-prophetic speculations. "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world's beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.". PRIVACY SETTINGS, https://assetsnffrgf-a.akamaihd.net/assets/m/2019561/univ/art/2019561_univ_sqr_xl.jpg, THE WATCHTOWERSTUDY EDITION September2019, https://assetsnffrgf-a.akamaihd.net/assets/a/w/E/201909/wpub/w_E_201909_lg.jpg. If you found the Watchtower contradicted the Bible which would you believe? 8 Replies In verse 5, the apostles concluding admonition is: from these turn away. The expression turn away renders the Greek term apotrepou, an imperative mood, present tense, middle voice form, together with the singular number/masculine gender. When the planet earth is destroyed, it will be a consequence of militant muslims or tectonic or planetary/solar mechanics and not because of any intervention from the "spirit realm.". THE SUPREME COURT STILL INTERPRETS, thank God; and Christ Jesus, the Court?s official mouthpiece of interpretation, reserves to himself that office as head of Jehovah?s ?faithful and wise servant? (Rev. Satan, of course, will be enraged. Included therein were Noah's building of the ark and his preaching work, right up until the time that the Flood finally arrived. 4 Why did Jehovah connect the final great war with Megiddo? Good, I'll be too old to give a damn anyway. I do agree the GB is probably "scrambling" to find a "solution" but they face the dilema of authority loss if human error is admitted and reform is entertained. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/65453/1/Comments-You-Will-Not-Hear-at-the-1-25-04-WT-Study. 3. Jehovahs Witnesses teaches that Armageddon will start in the year 2034. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions 'in the name of Jehovah.' Jehovah's Witnesses ban comes into force in Russia after appeal fails. The governing body (especially the young ones and future appointees) will panic when they realise that tinkering (15 mins for old publishers and pioneer requirement shifts) has not done the trick. But is it not preferrable to make some mistakes because of 'over-eagerness' to see God's purposes accomplished then to be spiritually asleep as to the fulfillment of Bible prophecy . Its mission is to reveal documents, files, and publications that are kept secret from the vast majority of Jehovah's Witnesses, particularly vulnerable persons and women. This works for the current GB as some of them will be alive in 2034 but all will be dead by 2154! 1-2. Yes, the survivors will be absolutely right when they proclaim, "Jehovah God, the Almighty, true and righteous are your judicial decisions."Rev. 6/1/99 and 8/15/99 Watchtowers each had articles that drew the parallel between the JWs work and Noah's. With these rich truths to light the way, Christians do not grope in this dark, jungle-like world as do the masses of people in Christendom and heathendom alike. Sadly, this trend is affecting Jehovah's Witnesses around the world. Further, they totally ignore the Lords declaration that all the signs of Matthew 24:5-33 were to be fulfilled in the A.D. 70 event. 20:17, 22,23) And he may use his angels to slay the wicked. And should we forget; liars. Like that ancient era, Christs presence would be a period of time during which people would be too caught up in the day-to-day affairs of life to take a note of a warning being given. They'll work their way up to it over the next couple decades, you'll see. Do Jehovah?s Witnesses claim that Jehovah God speaks through them? 38:3, 4, 18, 21-23. 16:13,14) That coalition is called Gog of the land of Magog. When the nations launch their attack, they will have arrived at the symbolic place called Armageddon.Rev. Mr. theodore Jaracz, member of the Governing body, known as the faithful and discreet slave, who provides with spiritual meat to the domestics in due time, a. But there is one important difference between the two conflicts. ^ par. 15 Christ and his heavenly armies will defend Gods people and crush Gogs hordes. Where the Adventists have been, the Witnesses will follow. 1986 June 8 p.9 "Would That All Were Prophets!" Why do they have to go from one extreme to another? In fact they go so far as to say that unless one calls on the true name of God, "Jehovah," one cannot be saved. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it . Copyright 2023 Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania. It is Gods spirit that bears witness with that persons spirit that anoints them with the heavenly hope. Just google Armageddon 2034. The 2034 date is thoroughly refuted by the numbers in the Insight book. Can you post the appropriate segment of the French version? They will make her devastated and naked by plundering her wealth and exposing her wickedness. Notice that Jesus did not liken his presence to the relatively short period of time during which the Flood occurred in Noah's day. He was also laying a foundation for a work that would be completed in our 20th century." Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. for God has on earth today a prophetlike organization , Jehovah's anointed witnesses on earth. A replacement for Freddy is still awaited. The Jehovah's Witnesses website provides details on the 1.7 million-square-foot project, known as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. THE WATCHTOWERSTUDY EDITION September2019, Share Jehovah's Witness, member of a millennialist denomination that developed within the larger 19th-century Adventist movement in the United States and has since spread worldwide. 15. www.opendialoguemediations.com. On occasion, Jehovah directly intervened in those battles. Prior to 1975, it was widely taught among the Witnesses that that year would usher in the end. When such did not occur, thousands abandoned the movement. (b)What questions will we consider in this article? This works for the current GB as some of them will be . (Read Matthew 24:37-39.) Megiddo and the nearby Jezreel Valley were the sites of many battles. At 1Thessalonians 5:2, Jehovahs day refers to the great tribulation. (Rev. The 'end' did not come. While I'm not sure they'll make the same mistake they made before, but I would be willing to put some money on it. All rights reserved. He plainly declared: this generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished (v. 34). For further information, consult the article on this web site: A Study of Matthew Twenty-four. After all, the gods of the once powerful Babylon the Great did not save her from the wild beast and its ten horns! 17:16) So Gog will expect an easy victory. 16 Whether we have been in the truth for many years or not, to be saved at Armageddon, we must show that we know God and that we obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. (2Thess. At Gods appointed time, those political powers will turn on symbolic Babylon. Fred Franz was allowed to write his prediction about 1975 in the "Life Everlasting" book. Those who have read Raymond Franz's 'crisis of conscience' will have heard the story about Dan Sydlik's remark about the need to 'open some windows to let some air in here'. Since his enthronement in 1914 and the 3.5 years it took for the examination to determine who could be called the FDS. 16:14) However, in this article, we will also use the term Armageddon to refer to the war that immediately follows the gathering of the kings of the earth.

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