Dont think the applied silver will remain whole for very long. The references and notes make the Schuyler KJV Reference Bible a great study Bible by giving you tools to define words and compare Scripture with Scripture. Line Matching. Tried to keep this short yet explainable. The goatskin looks extraordinary from the pictures. This condition does not exist on the back, only the front. Every edition features Full yapps Page size: 4.7 x 7.1 x 1 (120 mm x 180 mm x 28 mm) 28 GSM Paper Font: 8.5 pt. I have no complaints in that department and a vast improvement over the navy blue example. Writing In Your Bible: The Schuyler Canterbury and the Case for Traditional Wide Margin Bibles In a market packed with Bibles designed for recording both the thoughts and the artistic expressions inspired by your reading, is there still a place for traditional wide margin editions? That which was to follow was meet for the ever increasing apostasy of Christianity up to the present day. And, I understand that LCBP is a ministry, but in some cases TBS bibles are actually cheaper than the bibles from LCBP. Im glad to see this document is included. Ive been in various fields of manufacturing for slightly over forty years, so these types of things am geared to notice, looking beyond the glitter of goatskin covers, etc. Hi Trent. Like you, I had also noticed the light impression of the imprinting on the outside of the bible, the shortness of the tail bands, and the ribbon markers could certainly do with some repositioning. I have written before about the glorious quality of my fathers old bible purchased for him by the family in 1954, Ive found nothing to compare yet with that quality which was at that time was expected, not an exeption. They cannot fathom nor admit that such an idyllic conception as they envision it, is an utter impossibility in this countrys present and declining moral state (rush to wickedness) and certainly the recompense of their ways even considering from a totally secular viewpoint. Any idea when they will release some details about the Canterbury font size and Bible size? Evangelical Bibles customer service was exemplary as usual! Thank you. Our best approximation for arrival in our warehouse is May. Feb 24, 2023 | LSB (Legacy Standard Bible) | Featured. All of the businesses and ministries we have been discussing are either directly or indirectly doing the Lords work and deserve our respect. http://ourrabbijesus.com/articles/translation-debates-jewish-view/, Don, Schuyler has produced the Westminster with all the bells and whistles you would expect in a premium edition goatskin leather, edge-lined, stitched, art-gilt edges, and 4 thick ribbons. There is really only one advantage to the Schuyler aside from the goatskin aesthetics and that is the edge lined construction. John. Free shipping. I recently received the 2nd generation Schuyler KJV in purple, and Im totally pleased with it. But as things stand would not recommend these editions to any with a potential interest. Calfskin leather binding. If they carry an item, this is where it is bought from. Yet, history is replete with countless examples where his protection did not extend to the saving of the physical lives of His faithful, even those that sang praises of joy as their lives were extinguished in the most horrible manners and remained steadfast to their final breath. Don, This is another feature that I think places this one above the Longprimer. Your total cost would be the same as the Schuyler, but you wouldnt have to pay the bulk of it for many years. Schuyler looks at all the aspects of Bible Binding to produce a Bible that represents the highest quality in binding, materials, craftsmanship & legibility. Free shipping for many products! This makes it a little difficult to use but it has more entries for less space, so its a good tradeoff. I REALLY love both of these Bibles. Free shipping. Just some observations: In regards to the paper in the Schuyler, it was brought to my attention that it is not thicker, but heavier or denser, which probably has more to do with not only the weight (gsm), but Opaqueness. Thats an impressive list and to place the 2nd ed. Hi Randy, Schuyler has produced the Westminster with all the bells and whistles you would expect in a premium edition - goatskin leather, edge-lined, stitched, art-gilt edges, and 4 thick ribbons. I prefer paper without a glossy shine. If someone blended a Clarion with a Thompson Chain, the Schuyler is what they would end up with. The Schuyler Quentel ESV Black Goatskin can be found on evangelicalbible.com. 4. The Schuyler Classic Reference KJV is available at EvangelicalBible.com. I hold no animosity to those who hold other opinions, what is important to me is that the Bible be read, respected and honored, and most importantly that Gods Word be uplifted throughout the world. Full Yapp Natural Grain Black Pearl Calfskin Cover with Navy Calfskin Lining Same Pagination as the Quentel CSB (all page numbers and format will be identical) 8.5 point Milo font Page size: 4.7 x 7.1 x 1.1 (120 mm x 180 mm x 28 mm) Line Matching 28 GSM Indopaque Paper 2 Navy Ribbons Art-Gilt Edging (blue under silver) Gilt Line . KJV Allan Brevier Clarendon Reference Edition - Navy Blue Goatskin (7CNB) . 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It might be a while before they know for sure. Heres is their website: http://evangelicalbible.com/shop/. I agree that it shares commonality with the Thompson and Clarion with references being next to their verses. I almost always fold back the covers for handheld reading. I support LCBP, and TBS because I am sympathetic with their ministries. The Schuyler KJV Reference Bible is their edition of one of my favorite KJVs ever published the TBS Westminster. It should be out next year. And no offense intended, but when it comes to spreading the gospel of GOD, I dont think TBS or LCBP is the only shop in town. The Quentel KJV whenever it comes out will have a larger font but then we get into the other concern. Rated 5 out of 5. by Landon Leslie The endpapers were done in silk moir I believe it is called, also with multiple lines of imprinting on the spine and the front plus two ribbons. It makes reading much more enjoyable. If the flange is not glued down as well as stitched, I saw a possibility with use that it may lift after the cover had endured a measure of movement or flexing? The bibles and the businesses that produce and market them are real assets to the Christian community at large and deserve at least prayer, and in the case of the ministries, support as the Lord leads individuals to give. And I believe youll find that EVBIBLE (Schuyler) consistently sells bibles from various publishers cheaper than most other online retailers. I own every goatskin kjv available and the Concord is my least favoritr of them all. If they had something like that with the dictionary and concordance in the back it might work just great for what I wanted. There is another Bible coming out that I might recommend in place of the KJV Quentel for your purposes. I just received a 2nd generation Schuyler KJV. However my issue is that the verse numbers are so small that it is difficult to locate them while preaching. My only complaint with the cover is that it tends to make the leather cracking sounds when moving. Next noticed the gold imprinting of Bible in Holy Bible on the front cover was getting a crazed effect of small cracks in the text characters surface. They are 3/8 wide and plenty long enough to be useable. When hand holding with the spine or tailband horizontal and you tilt or rotate the spine upwards toward a ~45 degree angle, either left or right side, you can feel a wobbleness (sic?). Features: - Calfskin Leather cover - 200,000+ Cross references - Black text throughout - Quality sewn binding - 4 Ribbon Markers (2 Red, 2 Black) - Quality Bible paper Additional Contents: - Gift presentation page I am glad that more publishers are doing this. Also the verses run together making it good for reading but difficult for locating scriptures. I have the first generation as well. I could conceivable make gizmo nozzle attachment to inject an adhesive in that area from the end, but just not that energetic for those things anymore!, and it may not pan out that well even with simulated mockup in card paper for trial runs. The #1 Source for King James Version Bibles "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - John 1:1. The front cover on the Schuyler due to the LARGE hinge radius will not lay as flat against the text block as it will the on TBS, nor as it does as on the Allan Longprimer or Clarendon. An excellent review by Mark Bertrand. Randy, Anyone who in any way promotes the Gospel is in my opinion doing a good thing. Great size as well. This can be solved by printing the verse numbers bolder. Blessings Mr. Brown. Not just the double-column layout and the verse-by-verse line breaks but even the phonetic spelling of supposedly difficult words is maintained. Has minor 325551481136 Thank you Randy, and I greatly appreciate your reviews! Thank you for writing this review. Let us all pray that the forces that want to suppress the Word of God not be allowed to prosper in this country. It's available in goatskin in several colors. Yes, good help is difficult to find. Perhaps, it is just vanity, but I really like the Westminster text block, one major reason is that it is not self-pronouncing, and appreciate a nice cover and the edge lined construction. without subheadings, references, etc., but at the same time remains practical for Bible study. I am looking for a new bible and I think I have it narrowed down to two or three options. Thanks for the help. By tomorrow I will have either decided to keep it, and chalk it up as a sign of the times, or will call EVB to state its condition and see if they consider this sloppy ribbon placement unacceptable. Just how much larger in practice is it than the KJV Reference? Ill let it go for a hreat deal. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Allan NIV1 BL (Classic Reference Edition) Bible at the best online prices at eBay! The embossing for the silver coloring on the cover front and spine seems shallow. KJV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Black Goatskin Full Yapp. This is apparent in almost every product marketed in this country, Ive in my 72 years witnessed it time and time again. Went ahead and ordered two of the black vinyl covered from TBS and am sure they will be delivered correctly and are on their way as this is typed. Concluded this was from the flexure while hand holding due to the very light embossing of this text. Im on the fence about the plate, but the money I saved for a new bible makes up for it. However, as many people like to take notes in their bibles, I wonder how do the papers compare with ink bleed through, since the paper in the Schuyler is supposed to be denser? I will add to what has already been said TBS Westminster is a good deal. It might end up being my preaching and carry Bible. The inside liner is leather. Thanks for sharing Christopher. ESV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Dark green Goatskin Full Yapp. To my knowledge there has been at least 2 runs of the Westminster textblock: 3M/05/12 and 10.5M/01/13 (this one) from examples that I own. Ive worked this out different ways and even tried my hand at edge gilding, like it or not these materials and features do add additional costs to the product. And, from what I understand a minimum print run of books/bibles is somewhere between 500 1000 copies. Brown, Goatskin, made better than "extremely well." No ghosting through the pages, with references at the bottom of the page. This Bible is a winner in every category. This is the small area of liner material between the end of the hinge and the inside folded over edge of the cover. I contributed absolutely nothing, although at one time I believed I did. The liner is black, which doesnt look as nice as it could have if it matched the cover. On a more amusing!!! I am coming to a tentative conclusion that most real, practical needs can be adequately covered with ones choice of the TBS Westminster, Windsor, LCBP Cameo or one of their hand sized editions and one will not need to feel of having missed anything, but still have a quality choice and variety of good to excellent text blocks and durable covers with the obvious far cheaper prices. SCHUYLER NASB PERSONAL Size Quentel (Psl028578) - EUR 136,14. But thats just me being picky. All the rest of the bible pages, seem perfect, although it was only spot checked. $177.51. . Same tint of the paper. You really cant beat Schuyler 2nd generation with any bible out there. It just may be for a small number of His faithful saints, His elect, that His wrath has not fully consummated this country, so far. There are no marks or damage. I originally bought most of these bibles with the intention of finding the ones that suit me best and selling or giving away the ones that dont. I may have to go with your idea and switch to a text only search in order to get the font size and bible size that I am looking for. Page Size: 6.14 x 9.1 x 1.1 (156 mm x 231 mm x 29 mm) 9 mm yapp. Natural Grain Black Goatskin Cover with Red full Calfskin Leather Lining. Am very satisfied with this example. It is to my mind almost incomprehensible that anyone could do this careless of a job in ribbon placement. The Concord is nice bit doesnt open as well in goatskin. This is a beautiful bible. Assuming the book is not abused but used frequently. Its what TBS uses. It is edge-lined and perimeter-stitched for the highest quality binding possible. The first bible page has some severe MULTIPLE creases (think accordion) starting from the gutter radiating in a circular path towards the top and bottom edges of the page for a couple inches from the gutter. It is wonderful that it is not only beautiful, but easy to use, read and contains so many helpful features. The Stridon is Schuyler's latest Bible design. Posted by Randy A Brown | Sep 22, 2013 | Bible Reviews, Bibles, King James Version (KJV), Reference, Schuyler Bibles | 57 |. I would hope that the leaders of each of these companies would use the information youve provided here to do an even better job. In Saudi Arabia any bibles from those entering the country are confiscated. The rich black cover is beautiful. One thing I like about this is that it contains the first chapter that appears and not the first chapter that starts on that page. $280.00 + $17.10 shipping. My uses are as followedCambridge Concord- carrying to church[sometimes private reading. I have never seen such a pathetic example of the placement of ribbons in a bible. 4. I would love to purchase this Schuyler Westminster kjv bible if it is for sale, Your email address will not be published. Don, Rated 4 out of 5. by mcintyre.robert One thing not mentioned previously was that there was a section of about 2 to 2.5 inches on the cover flange that was narrower than usual. It is great for reading but not so great for preaching. My concerns are font size for the first two options. The only thing that caused hesitation, as I liked the Navy and Mahogany appearances, was the contrasting black liner. I actually enjoy that cracking sound you referred to myself. Where allowed, and many concerns do allow it on the production floor, music has to be the near constant companion for many, particularly the entry level age up to those in their latter 40s. LOAN STAR PAWN LLC STATE 354609134976 I suspect it may last longer than the leather version. Having said this I am aware of others who disagree. The top of the page contains summaries of the main point of that page. Im just thankful that we have available to us the high quality that we have both in products and in service. This is my favorite paper for maps. That color is marvelous. Schuyler Westminster at the top says a lot about its quality. NIV - SCHUYLER QUENTEL IMPERIAL BLUE GOATSKIN. You have done an excellent job on reviewing this beautiful bible. 2. Thanks for the update Christopher. TYNDALE SELECT NLT Reference Bible (Black Calfskin Leather) Very Rare - $214.73. A King James Bible unlike any other. Here the stitching ran right on the border or to say at the flange edge. This bible is not as large as some, but for me and the way I use a bible, I need a stiffer cover that will better protect the bottoms of the pages and the cover while I read. There also seems to be somewhat of a difference in price between what the customer pays for goatskin vs. calfskin. For instance, I believe it was Jongbloed in the Netherlands that printed and bound the Schuyler Westminster; they also print and bind Cambridge bibles, the new Omega bible by Crossway and if Im not mistaken certain bibles from TBS, maybe even the TBS Westminster? I have dealt with EVB and can truly say that they are a fine company, I have purchased bibles from them, and have experienced nothing but top notch service and prices. It follows a similar pattern of their Quentel series but has a few design features that are unique in modern Bible publishing, creating a unique blend of old and new. I have also decided to mark (very tastefully and carefully) my Blues too, and ever so slight dings wont bother me as much as my lovely browns. Have a slight accident (or the cat takes an interest in the bible!) LSB Inside Column Reference Bible Review. Purchased new by me in 175631204626 Hi Seth. I found the LCBP Thompson Chain Reference too soft for me as well, that one is going out for re-binding in stiffer calfskin for the reasons I listed. It has sections headings, references in the footer, and red chapter and verse numbers (that could change, but thats what the current layout is showing). It is a complex many faceted problem including unions, government regulation, difficulty finding competent people and many other things. Nov 1, 2018 #1 I bought a Schuyler KJV Canterbury Bible. Unfortunately its not edge-lined goatskin, but that can be fixed . Used what I thought was a suitable glue and firmly pressed down the flanges against the textblock and let it setup. Sponsored. Ive heard good things about their customer service and I know their goal is the highest quality possible. After recieving the 2nd edition Scuyler, I am blown away at the steps they took to upgrade a classic to newer standards. I feels more shiny somehow than the matte chocolate highland goatskin of the Allan. There are secular forums where there is much wailing about the state of the nation and all that we need to do is get back to the principles of the founding fathers, rebellion, etc. The only thing Im curious about is their high shipping rates when an order exceeds the $200 dollar level because in my case all shipments (expedited service) have been by USPS Priority Mail which is a flat rate with a quite high weight allowance. If high end skin is again desired will send a new TBS Westminster out for a custom rebinding. Ive been carrying the Concord, but Ill change to either the Allan or Schuyler very soon. What effect this has on small businesses like Schuyler/EV Bible I cant say as I dont know how many give one time love offerings or regular tithes to the ministries. . I agree with their positions which I think are well reasoned and supported. When the back is laid with it topside the rear cover lays quite flat with the textblock. $57.59. They are a combination of John Browns Self Interpreting Bible and the Concord. No significant difference, just sample variation. I had not really considered anything besides a reference addition. I highly recommend the Schuyler KJV Reference Bible to anyone seeking a premium KJV. KJV Reference Bibles Wide Margin Bibles Binding Brand Color Font Size Thumb-Index Words Of Christ In Red Price Other Sort By: KJV Classic Wide Margin Study Bible (With C.I. Unfortunately, the non-discriminating public, wont get past the wow of the beautiful goat skin cover and seems obvious to me the manufacturers understand this well. R.L. Never a problem with 3 of the far cheaper TBS Westminster bibles owned. I only use the KJV and have no interest in the other versions. Norm. Aesthetics aside, with daily use do you think the Schyuler version of this will last for a significantly longer time than the TBS calfskin? Scofield Notes) - Goatskin Edition $299.99 $225.00 KJV Large Print Thompson Chain Reference Bible - Lambskin Edition $169.99 $145.00 There are no creases on the first bible paper page either. Thanks for your excellent reviews. Not that it really means anything, but suspect that the TBS will not prove as durable in its end page hinges? A lost society of short attention spans that cannot endure quiet or function without stimulation. Here is a basic Schuyler Navigational Chart. (I wish the Quentels were this size!) Schuyler Quentel KJV (when it comes out). I also purchased a fairly large sized Greek/ English NT second hand that had been previously rebound by http://www.AceBookbinding.com . The Schuyler KJV Reference Bible is their edition of one of my favorite KJV's ever published - the TBS Westminster. What blue that does show is of a very light coloration. 3. Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Black Goatskin Bible Rated 4.89 out of 5 $ 205.00 Purchase Details Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Imperial Blue Goatskin Bible Rated 4.90 out of 5 $ 205.00 The KJV is considered one of the most influential and beautiful works of . Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Full Yapp Black Goatskin Bible. Some (but not all) of our links are affiliate links. Schuyler Wide Margin KJV Bible. Schuyler uses only the finest materials in crafting their Bibles. All turned out well with this reconstructive, aesthetic surgery. There are 200,000 cross-references. My plan was to get a second bible in verse by verse format to use for preaching and use the Clarion as my daily reading bible. This is the first comment I have ever made but I read the reviews on your site all the time. It is 139 pages and is one of the better concordances available in a Bible. 100% Satisfaction ~ Pre-Owned C $214.37 Buy It Now +C $25.43 shipping estimate from United States http://thefoolishgalatian.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/interview-with-paul-cline-of-evangelicalbible-com/. Yep, for the money the TBS Westminster is very hard to beat. Schuyler looks at all the aspects of Bible Binding to produce a Bible that represents the highest quality in binding, materials, craftsmanship & legibility. You can see this condition (not the end view air gap) in some of the pictures posted on EBs website. I hold the Bible the same way you do. The cover flanges are pretty uniform and the excellent stitching is well within the flange borders. I prefer the method this Bible uses because it makes this Bible easier to use. It doesnt get any better than the Clarion for longterm reading. I will make my position clear in the hope that it may somehow smooth out any upset if indeed there is any. Now, before any of this took place, noticed that the opening between the liner flanges seem to be a little narrow for the width of the textblock to fit as it should. Allan Oxford wide margin- obviously for writing. The Holy Bible-Authorized King James Version-Indexed-Oxford University Press. Yes, we do have so much to be thankful for and for those that publish the Word of God. Glad to see I am not the only one. Kind Regards to all brothers and sisters in Christ, Picture Information. After a few months I had to get the tape and glue out. Wish I could post pictures. Free delivery for many products. There are four luxurious ribbons in four colors: green, purple, brown, and gold. If you have normal lighting then the KJV Reference wont be difficult to use. While there are many nice features on the current crop, I also notice a lack of attention in some aspects of workmanship. I often find my thumb or pinky finger hooked under the spine while I hold the bible when reading. $225.99. Allan NASB Holy bible Black Goatskin. Perhaps i wrote something that has offended someone, I hope not. Free Thompson Chain-Reference Bible Webinar by Randy A Brown | Jun 28, 2022 | 0 . My only complaint is there is no index to maps. What I determined was that the liner is not glued down to the inside of the cover right up to the beginning of the hinge radius of the liner or to say adjacent the beginning of the flange. Noticed this on the navy blue sample, but did not realize its implications at the time, just what a poor fit. I appreciate the review and all the pictures. I have the both the hardback and calfskin TBS Westminster. Its great to hear that you like it. note, and in perfect harmony to the times, I ordered 3 TBS Westminster hardbacks in BLACK. Here is the personal size version of this Bible. . John has raised some valid points about current quality standards in publishing. We have the massacre of Christians in Africa and as the Mideast has purposely been destabilized, countries which did offer a measure of safety for their Christian factions is diminishing in the current civil upheavals. Aniline Calfskin reveals the life of the animal in the natural grain, exhibiting pores, [] FOR SALE! Thanks Don. There are 32 blank pages in the back for notes. Your review is the only one Ive found that lists the writing paper as a feature. I have just received my Schuyler KJV and am not enamored over a couple things which I will address with other comments in a new reply later. To cut to the quik, decided to try and gently lift the edge of the free endpaper if it was agreeable! However I have been considering the Prof. Horner Bible Reading plan and I really like his theory of getting very comfortable or imprinting one bible to help memorize and access the scripture. The embossing for the gold impressions on the cover and spine are shallow. Im having that very same problem. Wish the liner was the same color as the cover or at least a complimentary color. This Bible is a winner in every category. The font is a perfect size for me. I am just happy that we have access to to the large variety and high quality of Gods Word and related literature we have. I still hold the Westminster as one of the best Bibles ever produced. All of that is a long way of bringing me to my question. And this was the reason I brought up the variation of costs of the different materials.

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